of government to get needed aid to people, i would argue it is necessary that you must do that. it's unfortunate, but we must do that. you want to have a discussion about flood insurance or what fema does, how it does it, how effectively it does it, that's fine. but you don't do it when have you thousands of people in desperate need. you don't hold those people hostage in a sense to your ideological predispositions, that's an ugly, thuggish way to do business. >> barney, he is saying when the house is on fire, put the water on it and then sort this out. >> that's not entirely fair. the reason the house broken up the sandy relief bill to three different parts, they want a $33 billion appropriation to go toward future daiser mitigation projects. i don't know how that $33 billion is supposed to grease the skids of washington. i guess i can think of a couple of different ways, but, again, we can't keep adding money to the debt that we don't have.